Love it or hate it,once a knife is released and is no longer in production if you get one it will be from the secondary market. It doesnt take long to realize who is really trying to flip knives or is selling to fund a another purchase or trying to trade up. I have bought a couple that were probably underpriced but the sellers still turned a small profit. Since I joined the forums not quite a year ago I havent bought a knife from a brick and mortar store.