Sounds like the SAR4 is a little beast, Peter. I just could not warm up to my BATAC and sold it. Speaking of shooting, I bought a Marlin 917VS in 17 HMR today. Couldn't afford the CZ or Ruger. I put my Weaver 4-16 x 42AO on it and took it to the range. I was able to get 1 5/8" @ 100m in 20 mph winds. I zeroed at 40m and only had to go up about 1 moa at 100m. Pretty flat for a rimfire, eh?Terrible trigger. A poor man's sniper rifle for varmints.