fair enough knotslip. i get ya. i have had a love affair with SR77 ever since i got my first S6. this is the steel DAN built the Yard on and it wont be surpassed or replaced by the RAT steel or Hog steel. SR77 will always be in Dan's heart and back yard - right in the places where God and Dan wants and needs it to be. LONG LIVE SR77!!!!!!