I guess in the end the S5s actually take a bit of the sting out. Yes Art- it is principle- but like Peter says "customers are customers" and pay in USD or whatever should be enough. I truly think Dan & Jerry will have these availible to the " commons" in a short period of time. ( hopefully) I own MANY Bussekin knives as does SF and Jimmie. Plus my PMs have been full with dogs that feel the same way we do. If what Bruce says is true and internet sales mean very little to the guys- well- I guess quite a bunch are gone and doubtful they will miss us. Great knives- super nice people so kudos on that- but this " test team" stuff just leaves a bitter taste. We shall see in the next week or so. Just my thoughts-Thank You <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />