Vic, I would also like to make it clear that in no way did I mean to imply that you do not deserve a Test Team knife. You certainly do. I can think of noone else that would give a better review. I hope you are able to score one of each so that me, Bob, and Steelfan can live vicariously through you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />