macgregor,

swiss tool, wave or endura.

mag, i hear you. if the only thing i want is a slicer than my zdp endura and zdp laminated horn are better than any knife i can think of. why do you guys like scrap yard? on most BSA organized camps a fixed blade is against the rules but if i am going to hike out of camp and practice wilderness survival i want a good bush craft knife and a super tough knife. folders are my only choices. i say wave for the saw and tools, a nice spydie slicer and a tank built folder.