I know it will sound like I am blowing my own horn, but I am glad I started the nutrition thread. It has brought forth some good stuff and I think it maybe spawned this thread. THIS is a GOOD thread. When folks talk about survival they often concentrate (as you said) on the weapon, kill them all, aspect and totally neglect the most important of the survival mindset, FOOD. Most folks who talk survival talk about freeze dried, MRE, or long term "Kits" which I feel do have their place, but for true long term survival you MUST be able to grow your own food and so many foods today must be grown from hybrid or non reproducing seeds which create a whole set of problems.