You know, if a new guy went to the SYKCO site looking to buy a knife and clicked on knives, he would not see the Scrapper 5 or Scrapper 5 LE. All he would see are older models no longer available. Of course, if he then clicked on "Place Order", the only knife that would come up is the S5LE. It's nice to have the pictures and specs of older models, but that would likely confuse a new customer to no end. But then, maybe that is all part of the mysterious "plan". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />