Thanks Tom. I took the slide off it again and oiled it up some and the original factory grease was still on the rails and I couldn't detect any kind of wear at all and the feed ramp was still that black with NO markings at all, so I am pretty sure it had never been shot (the guy did say he had two of them for some reason, maybe a his and hers). Any way I paid 475 WITH a 3rd mag. I think I did OK and if not, I don't care as I really like this. It DOES NOT feel anything like my old G17 second generation!