Pretty much Patty's story. She is the second oldest as well. The Oldest left home to live with grandma and grandpa (her choice) when she was I think 12. Growing up Patty's mother would Hide certain foods that she (her mom) liked from the kids. AND in the summer at times would lock the door so they couldn't get in to bother her when she was "Relaxing"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> That just ain't right!