Tried for 4 or 5 years. Couldn’t find one for sale any where. Finally figured out how to contact the designer and sent him an e-mail explaining my quest. He e-mailed me back saying he might be able to help me and asked for my snail mail address. Well I thought, right I will probably never hear from him, or at best a contact for getting one of the knives. About a month (I think) later I got a package from him with both the trainer and live blade inside! It is like he took a measure of my hand when he designed them. I am still in cloud 9.