The only thing DT is that lazi mentioned that the firearm must be at least 35 caliber to qualify for this late season which rules out the 30/30
I don't own a 45/70 but I do own a winchester timber in 450 marlin and a marlin 44mag
I have taught a few first time shooters with the marlin
I find the 44mag about equal to the 30/30 out to about 75 to maybe 100 yards
Originally Posted by DogTired
Originally Posted by lazi
would 45/70 be too much for a first time shooter?

while i'm thinking i will get a .357 barrel later on, whatever i get i would like to be able to hand to a family member and sit them in a stand some day. at least that's what i'm thinking...


I have 2 Marlin 45-70s. I shoot Leverevoltions in the guide gun and stout cowboy loads in the 28" (or 26"--I forget). The Leverevolutions are less painful, but have about the same kick as a 12 gauge shooting slugs. First time I took it out this year, it rocked me backward as I shot a deer and I'm a reasonably heavy guy. That said, it's actually a reasonably pleasant gun and round to shoot (once you remember what to expect).

A 44 lever gun is certainly less painful, but depending on your goals, a nice 30-30 might be the best options. That round has accounted for more deer in the Northeast than any other round--probably more than all other rounds combined. Gives you a nice easy 100 yard relatively flat shooting gun and can be shot well beyond that too. It's significantly less recoil than a 45-70 and will likely have less of a chance of a first time shooter developing a flinch. Might actually start off with a 22 at the range just to get used to shooting without flinching. Nothing worse than developing bad habits early on.

I started my kids on 22s. The oldest went on to a 243 with a 100 grain bullet and is now shooting my 25-06 with 120 grain bullets. He's 13 and about a buck 10. The 30-30 with a 150 grain bullet should be roughly the same as the 25-06 (maybe a little less felt recoil for the 30-30) and, if you are woods hunting, would likely provide all the distance you need.

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