Yes, i agree they are good enough. I guess what im trying to say is they are expensive for the materials they are made of, thats all im getting at. They are nice but the steel is kind of outdated and liner locks arent the toughtest locks out there. I like them for what I use them for. Even the Buck 110 is using a different steel than when they started making them back in the day, they upgraded from 440 steel.