im all about the carabiner for key carry. and if i need to be quiet, they easily make from the belt loop into the back pocket.

one of the design knocks i give the southard is the small spydie hole. you can notice its much smaller than the para 2, and its not entirely accessible either. along with that the blade has some strong retention; it makes for a tough open when not using the flipper. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />