Mac, I looked and looked. I really liked the Rukus and the Striders, too. I wanted a hard use folder that was good for pocket carry. My Skirmish is definately tough enough, but it is one big heavy sucker. Since I liked the looks of the Rijbak when Unsub posted a pic of it, I checked it out. My usual supplier has trouble getting them, but I found one at a better price at New Graham. Service was fast, and I got a free band-aid dispenser. It isn't as slick or "refined" as a Benchmade, but it is built like a tank. I like it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />