Not to get to far off the subject guys, but I did manage to get in on the nwsar5 from busse knives. I sent my e-mails to both e-mail addresses that was given, but I've yet to hear a word from anyone. I known this is how they do business, but I think that I like the way you can order from scrap yard. You click on the item ordered, you make your payment, and you get an acknowledgement from scrapyard. With the busse order, I'm not sure if I did get one of the knives or not. How long does it usually take to hear from them. And I usually carry a spyderco endura or a benchmade folder when I leave home.