Oh and actually, we have been talking about a 4x4 SUV lately. We like Mingo so much that a 4x4 is SO much nicer. Higher so visibility is better over the weeds that grow up alongside the road and on the back side (12 miles of nothing but gravel, some quite steep) it sure does help and setting more upright sure is good feeling on the old bones. That's why we like the '90 Cherokee Dad gave us so much.