My brother and buddy are smokers so we cheated and used a bic.
They were impressed with the DF. Shane (buddy) had an axe and I said
'NO no no! I have a big knife for a reason. I'll show ya how it's done."
When he grabbed the axe he grabbed a jug of motor oil!!!!
He was gonna use it to light the fire that we were cooking over!!!!!
Some people!!!