Randy, LMAO. I dunno? kerplunk?

MB- I see your point, when someone is just learning they should avoid slapping an electronic sight on and going, 'cause if it fails, they're out of the fight. Iron sights and findementals should never be forgotten. The way our M16s were set up in basic, our M68 CCOs were cowitnessed with our irons. It was nice, if you got sloppy the aimpoint was forgiving, and at the same time it acted like a giant ghost ring sight if the dot went out.